Sig P250 -A Great Pistol that just didn’t make it . . .

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LNIB – complete with all the usual “stuff” . . .

Sig had a neat idea with the P250 – a fire control group that was the “actual” serialized firearm – and then sell caliber “x-change ” kits – buy one firearm (functional) in your choice of caliber and the all you have to do is by a “kit” at a reduced price and you have another firearm – just swap the fire control group out and away you go. Full size – compact (which is what this is) – sub-compact / pick your caliber – 45 (which is what this is) – 40 S&W – 357SIG – 9mm – 380 – 22LR.  You get a frame – slide – guide rod – recoil spring – mag – just put your fire control group in it and you are good to go. A great idea in theory. In theory. Several issues kinda stood in the way of the idea taking off.

Availability – Your kidding – right?? I saw a grand total of one kit in the wild – Virtually everybody that carried SIG had them listed – never in stock – but listed on their website –  or in their catalog – the kits were never really “out” there to buy . . .

Price Point – In most listings the kit was just about right up there with the price of a complete firearm and the one that I saw in the wild was more than the price of buying the same size/caliber as a complete firearm . . .

DAO / self de-cocking / spurless hammer – for a lot of people an issue – unless you learned to shoot and shoot fast on a DA/SA revolver a Double Action Only trigger is a learning curve that most people just won’t practice enough ( damn Bruce – there’s that P word again!! )  with to become proficient in its use  – remember the P250 came into the market in 2007 – long after striker fired handguns saturated the market. From my point of view the DAO trigger was like old home week – very close to K frame S&W and the bonus of 10 rounds total with 45 acp.

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No doubt about it – with that profile it’s a SIG

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Sig did a good job on texturing the grips except where your thumb rests – added grip tape to both sides – gives some texture to smooth slick plastic . . .

Sig had a contract to produce 45,000 pistols for the Dutch police – for a number of reasons ( most of which will probably never be known ) it withered and died. Sig also had an order to provide the P250 in 357SIG as replacements for The Federal Air Marshall’s Service P229’s – that contract falling apart is an interesting read as a stand alone story. I urge you to research that mess for yourself – when you see Alice and The Mad Hatter say Hi! for me. . .

Sig had high hopes for the P250 line – had those come to fruition I believe volume would have been high enough that the price point at retail would have possibly dropped enough to become attractive to the public  . . .

The P250 just never really went over – Wiki only lists two agencies as using them – The Hong Kong Police and The Cleveland County Police ( northwest U.K. ) – really neat pistols but they just didn’t click . . .

Which led to this – virtually the same firearm – but striker fired – For my having shot the P250 DAO and really liking the trigger – the striker fired P320 was a real MEH . . .

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SIG P320 – Essentially a striker fired P250 – the biggest difference between hammer fired (P250) and striker fired (P320) ?? – NO second strike capability with the SIG P320  . . .  SIG added a little “shelf” for your thumb on both sides . . . But – But it’s striker fired – must buy P320  — News Flash !! — The trigger on the P250 is a better trigger – If you practice and train on it the P250 has a very good trigger – if you want to take a skill set and just apply a hardware fix to it – rather than improve on the skill set – go with the P320 – just saying – and the P320 became quite the success for SIG . . .

Oh Well – on to the P250 –

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Sitting on top of a SIG full sized 1911 – sitting by itself it looks to be pretty good sized – when paired with a full sized firearm you realize it is a “compact”

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Bottoms up! – P250 on the left – Sig 1911 on the right . . .

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Field strip is easy – lock the slide back – turn the take down lever – release the slide and off it  comes  . . .

And the recoil spring / guide rod assembly is not captive – ( only took 20 minutes to find the damn thing the one time it managed to escape my clutches ) so try not to launch it . . .

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Looking down the mag well . . .

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Slide release . . . one for each side . . .

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And one of the four tabs that the slide rides on – once you clean it – just put a bit of good grease on those tabs and a spot on top of both slide release’s – then lube the slide and away you go . . . And yes – I am going to do a post on what I am using and calling “good grease” – I ran up on a new product and it is really good – Battle Born Lube !!

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Now hear is where it gets interesting – pull the take down lever out of the frame

A wee bit of wiggling and finagling – don’t forget to hold you tongue just right . . .

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Actually it is not that hard to get it out of the frame – the only down side – never being able to find the different kits to swap it into . . .

Enough Barbra Streisand Bruce – are you gonna take this thing to the range or just tease us ???

7 yards – slow – aimed – deliberate fire . . .

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7 Yard – 5 round dumps – It’s all in how you train and practice – the more I focus on sights – the worse I shoot -LMAO!!

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Slow deliberate  fire at 10 yards – the one I circled is out of the top left string – don’t ask me – I don’t have a clue -LOL!!

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And finally 5 yard slow fire . . .

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Bottom Line – Worth buying?? If you can find one – frame size and caliber you want?  Sure – why not! ( My God!! – you know I am only going to enable you not dissuade you !! ) Don’t go overboard on the price – try to get as close to the $325 – $350 dollar range as you can – unless you just gotta have one ( I am laughing as I type this ) – if I remember correctly this one was $399.00 on sale – NIB – I think . . .

Don’t forget – BLOAT – Buy Lots Of Ammo Today!!

Have Fun! – Run the Gun! – and remember – Fish Heads are Cheap!!

Out of the Closet – 10-6 Update

There are times that I get so far behind with this blog stuff – I almost have to speed up to stop. Getting this update posted this late is not completely my fault.

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Several people asked about this little scruffy Smith that you first saw here. Poor little darling . . .

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Rough – Tough Shape – but it shot so well. Took a while to get a “deal” put together that satisfied everybody – then the cerakote job took way longer than was anticipated ( the guy got busy as can be – as a capitalist I can appreciate that! ) – and then get it in my schedule to go and shoot it – and here we are 18 months down the road from start to finish.

I believe the end result was well worth the wait!!

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The matte black came out better then I was hoping for . . .

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You really have to look hard to find any faults with the finish . . .

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Reused the grips that came with it – scrubbed them with a nylon brush and Hoppes – then really hot water – nylon brush – and dish soap – now I’ll have to look around and find another “back burner” project – LOL!!

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10 yards – 158 grain RNP ( round nose plated ) standard pressure – double action – finally settled down on the last round out of the first cylinder – the next 6 laid right in – Sweet old Model 10 – nothing else quite like them. Originally published on thebrucesite October 18, 2019

Have Fun! – Run the Gun! – and never forget – Fish Heads are Cheap!

The original episode of “The Flamingo Chronicles” including the never before seen opening panel

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It started as any other day – morning formation – assignments – and George forgot the beer.

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And then .  . . Intruder Alert – Intruder Alert. Don’t worry everyone, we have him cornered!

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My God he’s quick!

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Look at him go – we’ll never catch up – sound the alarm and call out the reserves!

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That yard gnome will NEVER get away from all of us!

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He’s heading into the lily garden – surround him and we’ll have him trapped.

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My god he’s vanished – does anybody have a visual on the gnome?

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What an incredible leap – after him – AFTER HIM !!!

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Nooooooo!!! He’s on the concrete – we’re screwed now . . .

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Look at him go !

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He’s heading into the front yard, we still have a chance if we can catch him on the grass.

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Come on fellas – let’s go.

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Trapped !! we’ve got him now !

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Watch out ! – he’s jumped over to the lawn – arrrrrrgh – more concrete

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Epilogue – he’s here – but which one? – I don’t know – gnomes all look the same to me – what are we going to do?? I know – let’s go watch a Miami Vice episode !! I’m in – me too – let’s go – I’ll make popcorn ! Alright . . .

Thus ends another day in the life of a group of pink plastic flamingos – this was last years episode – enjoy . . . originally published on thebrucesite March 28, 2016

Have Fun! – Run the Gun! – and remember – Fish Heads are Cheap!!

Sig 1911 – Not your Grandfather’s .45

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Sig did something different here with their break from “traditional” 1911’s . . . (and they do make a nice line of the “traditional” style 1911’s “)

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The changes are obvious when their side by side :

  • magwell
  • memory bump grip safety
  • extended up swept beaver tail
  • spur less skeletonized hammer
  • dove tail sights
  • front frame checkering – 25 LPI
  • checkered main spring housing
  • larger slide serrations
  • skeletonized trigger with over travel adjustment
  • beefier frame with rail
  • different slide profile
  • the grips come with it as well
  • Ambidextrous thumb safety
  • flat wound recoil spring
  • Sig night sights

All the buttons – bells – whistles most folks desire – and at a better price point than adding it piece by piece yourself.

About that slide profile –

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It tends to “sight” a little better – but that is also dependent on what your used to and the amount of PRACTICE you are willing to put into shooting it – Damn P word again!!

There is a small amount of difference in slide weights –

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“Traditional” slide

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Sig slide ( damn cellphone camera )

The .6 oz difference in slide weight really is not enough to account for the difference in the feel between the GI style and the Sig

Overall weight –

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RIA FS GI style 1911 – with 8 plus 1 230gr on board

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Sig with the same load out

Those 2.6 ounces ( 2 oz for the frame – .6 for the slide) do make some difference – however the Sig comes with a flat wound recoil spring . .

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Sig on top – GI style on the bottom – I have ordered a Wilson Combat flat wound recoil spring and guide rod for my RIA – when it gets here I will let you know the difference ( Come on Bruce, you’re just using this as an excuse to burn up a couple hundred rounds of hardball !!! – No I’m not – this is going to be serious research into a question that these folks want and need to have answered !! – LOL )

All right all ready – Enough BARBARA STRIESAND !!! – Does the thing shoot??

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OH Hell Yes – and nobody even had on their party dress !!

It shoots very well indeed – these were at 10 yards – flash sight shooting ( follow this link to LuckyGunner for an explanation of flash sight picture shooting ) from low ready – using 4 magazines with random numbers of rounds ( 1, 2, or 3 ) in them in random order – Guy shooting to my right wanted me to do a head shot – one round in the mag – pull it up and let it go – that’s it in the middle picture.

Worth the price of admission??

This particular one was a rental gun at Inner10 – offered to me at a good price and it truly needed a stable – loving home environment – so I did the right thing – I snatched it up – Heh Heh !! They are out there on the used market as well as new – if you are looking for something a little different in a 1911 pattern – you might want to consider a Sig!

And in case you didn’t notice – I still refuse to step off into that bucket of internal vs external extractors – nope – not going there . . . originally published on thebrucesite October 4, 2019

Have Fun !! – Run the Gun !! – and remember – Fish Heads are Cheap !!

Out of the Closet – S&W Model 10

This is a series I wanted to start and mentioned not long ago that if you you had a “closet queen” it would be neat to take a look at it and shoot it etc. – So here we go!!

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Out of the Closet . . . 10-6

Smith and Wesson 10-6

It started life as most did in those days – in a holster with a local PD – carried a lot – shot a  little – was put out to pasture when the high capacity 9mm’s became the cat’s meow – bought more than likely in a bulk or “lot” purchase by a wholesaler – then subsequently finding it’s way to an FFL and to it’s new home .

What a change in lifestyle – carried a little – shot a lot – however . . .

Those nasty little spots of holster wear that the little darling was fretting over , after a while didn’t seem to bother as much anymore.

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The spot of bluing that is missing on the end of the barrel  – really did not seem so bad after 20 years or so going between a glove box of a pick up truck and the bottom of a tackle box – and OMG!! – they didn’t even put me in a holster ! – I swear I will never complain about spending all my time just being carried around in a holster all day – Really I promise – not another word!!

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It was literally “found” (after being forgotten) on a closet shelf while moving stuff around looking for something else entirely.

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Rough or poor condition is being charitable . . .

The Model 10 was brought to me with two issues – Gee ,  this trigger is sure hard to pull and “What’s it worth?”

I will take the trigger issue first – The trigger was so hard to pull because the cylinder was so full of gunk that it would barely turn by hand – it would not spin freely  – disassembled the cylinder completely and started scrubbing and scrubbing and scrubbing . . . “Bumped” the side plate off after soaking the  screws in Kano Kroil – the inside was clean but dry –  all I did was put a drop of CLP on the pivot points and put it back together.

But does it shoot??

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24 rounds S/A slow fire @ 21 feet – the one I circled – I knew that was a lost cause when I let it go -LOL!  Smoooth D/A @ just over 12 lbs and crisp as can be 3 lb 4 oz S/A – real sweet – which brings us to . . .

So , what’s it worth?? – Being brutal about it – If the folks were paying for cleaning and time – they got more in it than the old Smith is worth . Mechanically the gun is sound – cosmetically you have nothing – I gave them three options in no particular order . . .

1. Sell it to one of the Local Gun or Pawn Shops – if they would even give you an offer – remember they would have to turn this over at a profit ( that is the name of the game ) Re bluing is not a viable option – the price of the bluing plus considerable cost for polishing prior to bluing – (shop time = money for labor ) – prices blueing out of the market. Bluing will not hide the dings and scratches. It will only make them more prominent. So they would not want to buy it and put more money in it thereby either reducing their margin to almost nothing or having to price it so high that it simply wouldn’t move off the shelf.

2. Keep it clean and oiled – shoot the snot out of it every chance you get – enjoy it!! Will definitely have to keep up on cleaning simply because there is a lot of bare metal exposed.

3. Parkerized or phosphate finish – Just about as close to a forever finish as you are going to get. Take it to Boses in Emerson – let them go through it and replace any parts that don’t meet factory specs – most obvious is the extractor rod – any internals that need replacing – although it feels and looks pretty good so I don’t think there are any issues – get the parkerize job done for $125 bucks or so – stick a set of new Smith wood grips on it – add a T-grip adapter – looks good – handles good – shoots good – durable finish and minimal maintenance. All in all they end up with somewhere around $200 or so in it and it will last just about forever.

I am partial to model 10’s and made an offer – I will have to see how that goes – if I do acquire the piece everybody can follow along through the refurbishment project , should prove to be fun. – originally published on thebrucesite April 1. 2018

Have Fun – Run the Gun – and remember – Fish Heads are Cheap!!

Posole – Really Good Stuff Alert

Every one tends to fall into a “groove” – or rut depending on your point of view – here is a recipe that will really give you something different than the usual chili and crackers for game day Saturdays and casual get together’s  . . .

The Stuff –

sesame oil (adds a another level of flavor to the soup)

2 lbs of boneless pork loin cut into 1 inch cubes

2 14.5 ounce cans of enchilada sauce plus two cans of water

2 15.5 ounce cans of white hominy (drained)

one good sized onion – chopped

can of green chilies

4 teaspoons (or more if you want) minced garlic

1/2 teaspoon cayenne pepper

1 tablespoon smoked paprika (plus some to put on the pork before browning)

2 tablespoons dried oregano

1/2 teaspoon ground cumin

1/2 bunch cilantro

1/2 teaspoon salt

Are we ready? OK here we go –

Warm up your skillet – mean while a dash of salt – pepper (black) – and smoked paprika on the cubed pork loin

Tablespoon or two of sesame oil in the skillet – brown the pork – you might want to do 2 or 3 batches so the skillet stays hot and you get some good browning action going on

Here comes the tough part – dump everything in the slow cooker except the cilantro and 1/2 teaspoon of salt – add one enchilada can of water to slow cooker – take a second enchilada can of water and de-glaze the skillet – pouring all that goody into the slow cooker – stir – put the lid on – cooker on low – walk away for 5 or 6 hours

Half an hour before serving trim the stems of the cilantro – chop it up – stir it and the 1/2 teaspoon of salt in and put the lid back on – let it cook for another 1/2 hour – then get the hell out of everybody’s way – it is that good and just that simple.

Serve over a scoop or two of white rice in the soup bowls – absolutely wonderful and a great change up from chili!!

Using this as a base you can add extras to your hearts content – fresh jalapenos – Serrano chilies – tomatoes – just remember the earlier into the slow cooker – the more toned down the flavor will be – the further towards the end of the cook time – the more out front the flavor

You can garnish to your hearts content – sliced red onion – thin sliced cabbage – lemon or lime wedges – use your imagination !!

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The recipe is easy enough to upscale – you just need to use a stove top and a stock pot when you “outgrow” your slow cooker – if you do the stove top – cover it and keep it just above a simmer – a little bubbling action is where you want to be  – and cooking time ends up at about 3 1/2 or so hours

ENJOY !!!

(Any of the seasonings can be scaled up or down depending on your tastes – after you make this several times you will have a pretty good idea of how to make it to suit your taste)

Have Fun – Run the Gun – And Remember   – Fish Heads are not the only thing I can cook!!

Something about fat geese and Christmas . . .

I knew if I screwed around with it long enough I would toast my site – thebrucesite.wordpress.com – and I did!! – I managed to”cook my goose” It is still out there – wherever the Hell there is – don’t know for how long . . . I will drag stuff over here as I get time – this is not going to be fun – I resisted ALL the “new and improved stuff for wordpress because i figured out how to drive what I had – now I have to learn all this crap again – OUCH!! – will try to get stuff up for the weekend on this site and there is stuff dropping on the other site through Tuesday (?)

Have Fun! – Run the Gun! – and remember – Fish Heads are Cheap!!